Certificate code from Howard Stern NYC Sirius giveaway event

[Lee Roth]

I see a lot of the Howard Stern Sirus receiver certificates on
Ebay from the NYC giveaway today (18-Nov-04).

Turns out all of them have the same code - nothing unique about
any of them.

Details with code number, etc. on this Ebay auction item:
http://tinyurl.com/6qo95

(No, I'm not the guy that posted the info on Ebay - this is
just FYI).

[Mark]

On 18 Nov 2004 12:59:17 -0800, leeroth@my-deja.com (Lee Roth) wrote:

>I see a lot of the Howard Stern Sirus receiver certificates on
>Ebay from the NYC giveaway today (18-Nov-04).
>
>Turns out all of them have the same code - nothing unique about
>any of them.
>
>Details with code number, etc. on this Ebay auction item:
>http://tinyurl.com/6qo95
>
>(No, I'm not the guy that posted the info on Ebay - this is
>just FYI).


Just post the text from the auction before Ebay yanks it (since nothing is
being sold):

=============================================================================

People, don't be scammed!

I was at the Rally in NYC today and the cards handed out all had the same
codes:

1. Must redeem by 11/24/2004

2. Must order system from sirius.com/offer/sternrally

3. Promotion Code 263

4. Select the system you want and purchase annual subscription for $142.45

5. Certificate # HS7436 in the "refferal ID" field

It really pains me that people are selling these codes when they are all the
same and were totally free and all over the ground in NYC. The codes are
already posted on several sites. If you already bid on another auction,
CANCEL YOUR BID!!!

I think it is disgusting that people would try to sell these knowing that the
codes are not unique!

[Bonehenge]

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:02:58 -0500, Mark <me@privacy.net> wrote:


>Just post the text from the auction before Ebay yanks it (since nothing is
>being sold):

One would hope that eBay would yank the scam auctions, and maybe that
Sirius would ask them to.

But I don't think they will...

Barry

[Truth]

> I was at the Rally in NYC today and the cards handed out all had the same
> codes:
>
> 1. Must redeem by 11/24/2004
>
> 2. Must order system from sirius.com/offer/sternrally
>
> 3. Promotion Code 263
>
> 4. Select the system you want and purchase annual subscription for $142.45
>
> 5. Certificate # HS7436 in the "refferal ID" field

So anyone could call in and give this info and get a free radio then.

THAT is what they are hoping for, people will quickly call in and try to "scam"
and get a free radio, when in fact THEY are getting scammed by signing up for a
year of service! If a million people fall for this stunt, they will be able to
pay for Stern's salary! DON'T DO IT!

[Truth]

> One would hope that eBay would yank the scam auctions, and maybe that
> Sirius would ask them to.

No Sirius wants as many people as possible to use that number to sign up for a
year's subscription.

Why would Sirius NOT want millions of people to use this number and sign up for
a year's service?

Pretty sneaky bastards. Can't get subscribers the honest way, so they hope
to get in before the Christmas rush with this stunt.

[Lee Roth]

> So anyone could call in and give this info and get a free radio then.
>
> THAT is what they are hoping for, people will quickly call in and try to "scam"
> and get a free radio, when in fact THEY are getting scammed by signing up for a
> year of service! If a million people fall for this stunt, they will be able to
> pay for Stern's salary! DON'T DO IT!

Well, while you are at it, don't sign up for any cellphone service, it's a
SCAM to get your money, or avoid satellite TV, it's a SCAM too. God forbid
a company should make money by rendering a service that some people want.

[Truth]

> > THAT is what they are hoping for, people will quickly call in and try to "scam"
> > and get a free radio, when in fact THEY are getting scammed by signing up for a
> > year of service! If a million people fall for this stunt, they will be able to
> > pay for Stern's salary! DON'T DO IT!
>
> Well, while you are at it, don't sign up for any cellphone service

That is different. People were not rushing to get "free phones" or putting up "free
phone with paid subscription" certificates on Ebay. This was orchestrated to be
even more deceptive than the "free cell phone" gimmick.

> SCAM to get your money, or avoid satellite TV, it's a SCAM too.

I do avoid satellite TV. I would never get that. I like to watch television when
it rains. When it is clear and sunny out, I like to be outside not in the house
watching TV. With satellite, you can only watch TV on clear sunny days. Thus why
all the displays are turned off in the stores when it is raining, so you can't see how
bad reception is.

> God forbid
> a company should make money by rendering a service that some people want.

We shall see what Mel Karmizan does. Keep your wiener in your pants, if Karmizan
turns Sirius radio around, I may jump on the Sirius bandwagon with you. Karmizan is
probably the best thing that ever happened to Sirius.

They may actually have a chance now.

[Mark S.]

> We shall see what Mel Karmizan does. Keep your wiener in your pants,
> if Karmizan
> turns Sirius radio around, I may jump on the Sirius bandwagon with you.
> Karmizan is
> probably the best thing that ever happened to Sirius.
>
> They may actually have a chance now.

And then what? Are you going to say XM is doomed since Christmas is going
to decide which one is Beta and which one is VHS?

[charper1]

This was/is EXACTLY like a free phone or satellite giveaway. You get a
free $150 package of hardware of you subscribe. The idiots scamming on
ebay are doing that on their own and it wasn't any part of an organized
scam. You need to go hunt aliens in Roswell with that conspiracy
theory!

AND your comment that satellite doesn't work except on clear sunny
days, has to be the dumbest remark I have ever heard. 25 million
subscribers get it because its THAT BAD? People with badly installed
dishes can surely lose signal about the same as someone digging up your
cable, the cable company getting or knocking down a pole. AND the
retailers get in the habit of turning most appliances off during
storms, because there are less shoppers and they save electricity as a
general rule.


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[Hmm]

"charper1" <charper1.1fzpd9@satelliteguys.us> wrote in message
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> AND the
> retailers get in the habit of turning most appliances off during
> storms, because there are less shoppers and they save electricity as a
> general rule.

And they unplug them to protect them from surges or lightning. Lightning
arrestors don't do any good if you get a close enough strike.

[Truth]

> > We shall see what Mel Karmizan does. Keep your wiener in your pants,
> > if Karmizan
> > turns Sirius radio around, I may jump on the Sirius bandwagon with you.
> > Karmizan is
> > probably the best thing that ever happened to Sirius.
> >
> > They may actually have a chance now.
>
> And then what? Are you going to say XM is doomed since Christmas is going
> to decide which one is Beta and which one is VHS?

Depends. It is not as clear cut now as it was before Karmizan was CEO of
Sirius.

If Sirius can sell enough radios before Christmas, they will survive long
enough for Karmizan to change the programming line up and make Sirius a
comparable choice to what XM has to offer.

If they don't sell a lot, and XM makes a landslide victory in radio sales this
Christmas, Sirius is going to have a much harder time, but they could always
come around after a massive programming chance in channel line up, and then
advertise that anyone that turns in their XM radio will get a free Sirius
radio or something. I would offer a free year subscription to anyone that
buys a Sirius radio.

Karmizan being CEO changes everything.

Yes, it is now POSSIBLE (not certain, but just a possibility) that Sirius
could be the VHS and XM the Beta, but at this very moment, Sirius is still the
one in trouble.

But now I am not going to make a prediction either way which one wins until
after I see the Christmas sales.

If anything, this should make the two of you happy that accuse me of just
being pro everything XM and negative anything Sirius.

Who knows, perhaps in a year from now, I may go out and buy a Sirius radio,
but only if Karmizan changes things the way I expect he might.

[Truth]

> This was/is EXACTLY like a free phone or satellite giveaway. You get a
> free $150 package of hardware of you subscribe.

Right. But with this Sirius deal, you have to sign up for a year NOW, which means by
the time your year is up, you never got to hear Stern anyway! You paid for a year of
service without Stern, and then would have to pay for another year and be stuck with an
old radio, rather than waiting a year and getting a better radio and waiting to see if
Stern is actually on Sirius before shelling out all that money.

Think about it. These Stern fans would pay for a years worth of service to Sirius,
but for that year, would be listening to Stern on FM radio.

THAT is the deceptive scam. They also say you have to sign by WEDNESDAY, not giving
people enough time to think and figure this out.

[Truth]

> > AND the
> > retailers get in the habit of turning most appliances off during
> > storms, because there are less shoppers and they save electricity as a
> > general rule.
>
> And they unplug them to protect them from surges or lightning.

Yet all the other TVs connected to outside antennas they leave on.

[Hmm]

"Truth" <yenc@sucks.com> wrote in message
news:419E7E1A.5B474048@sucks.com...
> radio or something. I would offer a free year subscription to anyone
that
> buys a Sirius radio.

Woah, wait a minute. First you talk about Sirius scamming people with free
radios but having to pay for a years worth of subscription, but now you're
suggesting that they give you a free years subscription when they buy the
radio? What's the difference? That PnP with a home or car kit is worth
about the same price as a years worth of subscription. You could say your
buying the radio and the Howard Stern promo is for a years worth of
programming. Symantics.

[Hmm]

"Truth" <yenc@sucks.com> wrote in message
news:419E806E.5736FB58@sucks.com...
> > > AND the
> > > retailers get in the habit of turning most appliances off during
> > > storms, because there are less shoppers and they save electricity as a
> > > general rule.
> >
> > And they unplug them to protect them from surges or lightning.
>
> Yet all the other TVs connected to outside antennas they leave on.

If I saw a place like that and I wanted them to install my satellite dish,
that would be the exact place I would NOT buy it, knowing the same guy that
put up their dish is probably going to put up yours, too. It takes an awful
heavy rain or snowstorm to make my satellite dish cut out. On average it
cuts out less than my cable did. In fact, I'd see "NO SIGNAL" on several
cable channels when their huge C band dishes were caked up with snow or
whatever.

[Bob Haberkost]

"Truth" <yenc@sucks.com> wrote in message news:419E7E1A.5B474048@sucks.com...

> If they don't sell a lot, and XM makes a landslide victory in radio sales this
> Christmas, Sirius is going to have a much harder time, but they could always
> come around after a massive programming chance in channel line up, and then
> advertise that anyone that turns in their XM radio will get a free Sirius
> radio or something. I would offer a free year subscription to anyone that
> buys a Sirius radio.

Do you own stock in XM or something?
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[Bonehenge]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:14:46 GMT, Truth <yenc@sucks.com> wrote:

>I do avoid satellite TV. I would never get that. I like to watch television when
>it rains. When it is clear and sunny out, I like to be outside not in the house
>watching TV. With satellite, you can only watch TV on clear sunny days. Thus why
>all the displays are turned off in the stores when it is raining, so you can't see how
>bad reception is.

In eight years of DirecTV I've had two serious incidences of weather
interference. Both instances were towards the beginning, with older,
lesser buffered equipment. Our cable was out 4-6 times a year.

By any chance, do you have a Ham radio license?

Barry

[John A. Weeks III]

In article <6k2tp0d2ose709vb303rkbon8g617i7hdk@4ax.com>, Bonehenge
<Keep_it_in_the_newsgroup_please@aol.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:14:46 GMT, Truth <yenc@sucks.com> wrote:

> By any chance, do you have a Ham radio license?

According to his postings, he has every license ever invented
by god, including a Space Shuttle pilot's license, a permit to
pilot supertankers, and several FCC licenses that even the FCC
didn't know existed. His licenses are just like everything,
he makes them up, at least until his mommy sends him to bed
at 8PM. Ever notice he never posts after 8PM at night?

-john-

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[John A. Weeks III]

In article <PMvnd.56$Gw.32@trndny09>, Bob Haberkost
<cbclistener-really!-@canada.com> wrote:

> "Truth" <yenc@sucks.com> wrote in message news:419E7E1A.5B474048@sucks.com...
>
> > If they don't sell a lot, and XM makes a landslide victory in radio sales
> > this
> > Christmas, Sirius is going to have a much harder time, but they could always
> > come around after a massive programming chance in channel line up, and then
> > advertise that anyone that turns in their XM radio will get a free Sirius
> > radio or something. I would offer a free year subscription to anyone
> > that
> > buys a Sirius radio.
>
> Do you own stock in XM or something?

So, if Sirius does go broke, as yenc predicts, will XM pick up
their superior programming and better channel line-up? Or will
they keep their sucky channels and made-for-elevators music?

-john-

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[Bonehenge]

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:09:31 -0600, "John A. Weeks III"
<john@johnweeks.com> wrote:

>According to his postings, he has every license ever invented
>by god, including a Space Shuttle pilot's license, a permit to
>pilot supertankers, and several FCC licenses that even the FCC
>didn't know existed.

I asked that because he has an attitude displayed by many hams I've
met, and of course, he knows everything. <G>

Barry

[Truth]

> > radio or something. I would offer a free year subscription to anyone
> that
> > buys a Sirius radio.
>
> Woah, wait a minute. First you talk about Sirius scamming people with free
> radios but having to pay for a years worth of subscription, but now you're
> suggesting that they give you a free years subscription when they buy the
> radio? What's the difference?

Giving away radios is ok, but the deception is that you are getting them for
free, and you have to sign up for a year in which Stern is not going to be on
anyway, and he is the one involved in the promotion.

On his program, Stern made it appear he was giving away 20,000 free radios.
He never mentioned anything about that you would not get one unless you signed
up and paid for a year's service! Why not just give the radio and let them
sign up in a year when he is on Sirius?

> That PnP with a home or car kit is worth
> about the same price as a years worth of subscription. You could say your
> buying the radio and the Howard Stern promo is for a years worth of
> programming.

But you are forced to buy the year before Stern is even on Sirius.

Hey, nothing illegal was done, think of it what you will, I just think the way
they handled it was sleazy. Why not just run ads that for a limited time you
can get a free radio when you sign up for a year's service?

Because they need people to sign up NOW, not in a year when Stern is scheduled
to be on Sirius, they know they can't afford that, they need money now.

[Dyna]

None of Sirius codes are unique. They come up with the promo code for the
promotion and ride it until that promo is over.

As for it being deceptive, its really not. Think about it.

Average customer #1. Purchases radio, subscribes for a year, pays $150+150
for equipment and service.

Average customer #2, armed with promo code, pays nothing for unit, $150 for
service. Duh. So what if stern wont be there yet.

-Ex Sirius Callcenter Senior Support Representative.

[Lee Roth]

Truth <yenc@sucks.com> wrote in message news:<419E7085.E6C422DB@sucks.com>...

> > SCAM to get your money, or avoid satellite TV, it's a SCAM too.
>
> I do avoid satellite TV. I would never get that. I like to watch television when
> it rains. When it is clear and sunny out, I like to be outside not in the house
> watching TV. With satellite, you can only watch TV on clear sunny days. Thus why
> all the displays are turned off in the stores when it is raining, so you can't see how
> bad reception is.

Yea, right. I guess Sirius or XM won't work on rainy days either.

I think your pilot light is out fella...

[lab~rat]

On 22 Nov 2004 18:48:53 -0800, leeroth@my-deja.com (Lee Roth) puked:

>Truth <yenc@sucks.com> wrote in message news:<419E7085.E6C422DB@sucks.com>...
>
>> > SCAM to get your money, or avoid satellite TV, it's a SCAM too.
>>
>> I do avoid satellite TV. I would never get that. I like to watch television when
>> it rains. When it is clear and sunny out, I like to be outside not in the house
>> watching TV. With satellite, you can only watch TV on clear sunny days. Thus why
>> all the displays are turned off in the stores when it is raining, so you can't see how
>> bad reception is.
>
>Yea, right. I guess Sirius or XM won't work on rainy days either.
>
>I think your pilot light is out fella...

I have Dtv, and there are weather conditions that cause the picture to
go out. Sometimes it doesn't go out 100% and pixelates, making it
unwatchable.

--
lab~rat >:-)
The less you care, the more it doesn't matter.

[Truth]

lab~rat wrote:

> On 22 Nov 2004 18:48:53 -0800, leeroth@my-deja.com (Lee Roth) puked:
>
> >Truth <yenc@sucks.com> wrote in message news:<419E7085.E6C422DB@sucks.com>...
> >
> >> > SCAM to get your money, or avoid satellite TV, it's a SCAM too.
> >>
> >> I do avoid satellite TV. I would never get that. I like to watch television when
> >> it rains. When it is clear and sunny out, I like to be outside not in the house
> >> watching TV. With satellite, you can only watch TV on clear sunny days. Thus why
> >> all the displays are turned off in the stores when it is raining, so you can't see how
> >> bad reception is.
> >
> >Yea, right. I guess Sirius or XM won't work on rainy days either.
> >
> >I think your pilot light is out fella...
>
> I have Dtv, and there are weather conditions that cause the picture to
> go out. Sometimes it doesn't go out 100% and pixelates, making it
> unwatchable.

Good point.